{"id":2845,"date":"2020-02-02T16:29:47","date_gmt":"2020-02-02T16:29:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/edittranslations.com\/too-much-thank-you-in-france-inferiority\/"},"modified":"2023-07-07T11:03:07","modified_gmt":"2023-07-07T11:03:07","slug":"too-much-thank-you-in-france-inferiority","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/edittranslations.com\/fr\/too-much-thank-you-in-france-inferiority\/","title":{"rendered":"Too much \u201cthank you\u201d in France puts you in the position of inferiority"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When I lived in the UK, I often heard a judgement about\nFrench businesses, restaurants or commerce that the customer service is rude\nand unhelpful. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It is true to say that phrases such as \u201cI\u2019m afraid we don\u2019t\u2026\u201d or \u201cI am really sorry, but\u201d are not really part of the French language. The excessive use of <em>sorry,<\/em> <em>please<\/em> and <em>thank-you<\/em> is unnatural. We simply follow other codes to express the same tone and message. (Hint: try to start your conversation in a bar or a caf\u00e9 in Paris with a \u201cBonjour\u201d instead of \u201cExcuse me\u201d and see the difference.) There are actually business coaches in France who <strong>actively discourage salespeople from starting a pitch with a \u201cthank you for receiving me today\u201d<\/strong>, because, they argue, this puts them in a position of inferiority. And this is in a country where selling in just one meeting with a prospective client is notoriously difficult! You don\u2019t want to look like you are asking a favour when you want to affirm yourself as a potential business partner. When you sell, you actually solve somebody\u2019s problem, so who should thank whom in the end? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Here is what the French professionals say<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For the past year, I have been teaching business English to many\nprofessionals in Normandy. They are all business owners or sales staff, with\nmany years of successful careers in industry, retail or e-commerce under their\nbelts. Some already work with international clients or suppliers, e.g. in\nGermany or Italy. They are all stunned when I show them British or American\nbusiness writing or play telephone conversations. Their typical reaction is:\n\u201cWhy do I have to thank people at the start AND at the end of the letter\n(conversation)? I have already done it!\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Yep, you got it: helpful, but proud.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Less is more<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, do we not thank people for their business, or for queries\nor enquiries?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, we do, but\u2026 whilst we would say it once, it\u2019s not going to happen more than that in a phone call or a letter. In France, we serve customers for sure, <strong>but we do not grovel<\/strong>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you complain to a French company, do not expect a response starting with \u201cDear Mrs Dubois, thank you for your letter about your compensation claim\u201d. A customer is being difficult? We respond to their query or complaint, but we do not thank them for being a pain in the backside.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Status vs. money<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The priorities are somewhat different. In the so-called Anglo-Saxon countries, the customer is the king. Not so much in France. Status and dignity are more important than money. A professional you do business with (or a Parisian waiter, for that matter!) wants to be treated as <strong>an individual in an equal-playing field<\/strong>, not like a serf. Salespeople will not bend over backwards to you to get a sale.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">High vs. low context culture<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The French culture is also more \u201chigh context\u201d than say, British or American. The meaning is more understated. We don\u2019t tend to repeat information or summarise action points at the end of a business meeting. <strong>The cues in communication tend to be more implicit<\/strong> (the famous <em>sous-entendus<\/em>). If you repeat the same information or recap constantly, you may run a risk of offending your audience. They may think that you patronise them, or worse: that you don\u2019t trust them. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The other meaning of \u201cthank you\u201d<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you have ever travelled around France, have you noticed how often in French we say \u00ab\u00a0thank you\u00a0\u00bb where an English speaker would say \u00ab\u00a0please\u00a0\u00bb?&nbsp; It makes an instruction sound more assertive. So, where an English sign would say \u00ab\u00a0Please do not park here\u00a0\u00bb, in French it will say \u00ab\u00a0Merci de ne pas stationner\u00a0\u00bb. The same rule applies in business writing. An English email would say: \u201cPlease confirm your availability.\u201d In French, we thank instead: \u201cMerci de confirmer\u201d. <strong>\u201cThank you\u201d is an assertive \u201cplease\u201d<\/strong>.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(Here comes a side note, but I can\u2019t help it: You can see in France poor, but alas frequent translations like this one: \u00ab\u00a0Thank you for not parking here\u201d. I have seen many of these in Normandy and even in a well-known museum in Paris\ud83d\ude2e. It is high time that tourist boards or local authorities stopped using machine translation for tourist information, but that is another topic altogether. Rant over.)<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/edittranslations.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/EEaLKJ8XUAMxRt2-768x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Too much \u201cthank you\u201d in France puts you in the position of inferiority. How not to translate the affirmative &quot;merci&quot; into English or Spanish.\" class=\"wp-image-2698\" srcset=\"https:\/\/edittranslations.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/EEaLKJ8XUAMxRt2-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/edittranslations.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/EEaLKJ8XUAMxRt2-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/edittranslations.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/EEaLKJ8XUAMxRt2-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/edittranslations.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/EEaLKJ8XUAMxRt2.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Working in multicultural contexts<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I must say that even after 22 years of living in an\nEnglish-speaking country I have remained French in many ways. My translation\nbusiness coach, Jenae Spry, invariably starts every webinar or Q&amp;A session\nwith: \u201cThank you guys so much for hanging out with me, I know you guys are so\nbusy\u201d. And every time I cannot help thinking: \u201cWhy are you thanking me again? I\nam paying you for this service, so of course, I am tuning in!\u201d \ud83d\ude0a<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Straightaway though, my little culture-awareness voice\nanswers: \u201cYes, but she is American, and this is the way she manages business\ncommunication with her clients. She sells me a coaching service and she thanks\nme for the business\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If like me, you like the topic of cultural differences, I highly recommend the fabulous book by Erin Meyer: \u201cThe Culture Map\u201d ( <a href=\"https:\/\/www.erinmeyer.com\/book\/\">https:\/\/www.erinmeyer.com\/book<\/a> ). That map is very complex, but the most important lesson I have learned from her book is this: <strong>try to put yourself in other people\u2019s shoes and understand their perspective. What may seem rude or cold in one culture may be a sign of respect and self-respect in the other. <\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When I lived in the UK, I often heard a judgement about French businesses, restaurants or commerce that the customer service is rude and unhelpful. It is true to say that phrases such as \u201cI\u2019m afraid we don\u2019t\u2026\u201d or \u201cI am really sorry, but\u201d are not really part of the French language. 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